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The web argued over the disposal of the heavy missile cruiser “Lazarev”



The web argued over the disposal of the heavy missile cruiser "Lazarev"

The heavy nuclear missile cruiser “Admiral Lazarev” of project 1144 “Orlan”, which has been under repair for 15 years, has been sent for disposal. It will be cut into metal. There are only two of these Soviet-built cruisers left in the Navy – Peter the Great and Admiral Nakhimov. The latter has long been undergoing overhaul. Serious controversies have flared up on the Web regarding the write-off of Lazarev. Many users believe that the unique ship could still serve.

Cutting the ship into metal will take 5 years and will cost 5 billion rubles. Heavy nuclear-powered missile cruisers of Project 1144 “Orlan” were built during the Soviet era in opposition to the American aircraft carrier strike groups. In terms of striking power and means of protection, few could compare with them. But this was at the time of the heyday of the Soviet Navy and the practically unlimited possibilities of the domestic military shipbuilding.

Much has changed since then. Ukraine “sailed away” with the Nikolaev shipyards intended for the construction of the largest ships of the 1st rank. The possibilities of Russian shipbuilding have been greatly reduced. For at least the last 30 years, not a single ship similar to the Orlan cruisers has been laid down at Russian shipyards. That is why many former military sailors regretted the fate of the Lazarev, launched in 1981 under the name Frunze.

“Well, that’s all – dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness …? All! There is no more cruiser “Admiral Lazarev! ..”, – left a comment in the specialized group “Russian Navy” on Facebook Nikita Trofimov.

Alexander Maslov echoes him: “Well, they said that only“ Nakhimov ”and“ Peter the Great ”will remain. There is no money for the rest. Immediately the question is: what will be developed. “

“… They cannot build (ships) of the 1st rank, but let them go to metal … with pleasure,” commented Vladimir Dobrykh.

Many users note that Lazarev was brought to such a technical state that cutting is cheaper than restoring.

Oleg Kuleshov believes that utilization is a compulsory measure: “Well, finally, a useless piece of metal is being utilized. Better to cut up than spend millions to maintain this enclosure. I would like to ask opponents of recycling, where do you want to repair it? Which plant will be able to accept it? Repair of “Nakhimov” and then a forced measure – “Peter the Great” needs repairs, for the duration of which needs replacement. “

By the way, he believes that such large ships should not be built for the Russian Navy today: “No experiments are needed. It is necessary to continue to build frigates and gradually increase their displacement … You cannot immediately build the “Death Star” (obviously, I mean a space station from “Star Wars” – “MK”). Let’s first bring the corvettes and frigates to the required number, and then we’ll start something big. “

In response to this remark, a user with the nickname “Ern Gao” wrote: “And in South Korea, destroyers are built with a displacement twice as large as our frigates.”

Boris Aizenberg also doubts that the Russian shipbuilding industry is unlikely to be able to master the production of larger ships in the near future than the frigates of Project 22350. “This is the pinnacle of what they can bring into series. Top in the sense of the class of the ship. Everything else is the naive dream of idealists. It is not bitter to realize this … ”, – he wrote.

In response, Nikita Trofimov left the following comment: “That is why, in view of the inability to build a rank 1 ship with a real composition of effective“ managers ”, it was necessary to carry out the modernization of the Lazarev, which had already been worked out at Nakhimov. It would make up the core of the surface strike forces of the Pacific Fleet (Pacific Fleet), having a long arm in air defense, strike capabilities, the necessary communication systems for controlling the forces of the fleet and coordinating with the overlying headquarters. And you read the comments – well, like little children. Everyone teaches without having served a day in the navy. “

Nikita Trofimov recalled the achievements of the Soviet Navy, which had a whole line of nuclear-powered missile cruisers and a whole group of aircraft carriers that were solving tasks in four oceans. One of these aircraft-carrying cruisers was sold to India, named “Vikramaditya” and is actively used.

“Ships with excellent modernization potential – for them and AWACS (early warning radar. -“ MK ”) aircraft were almost ready, and the new Yak-141. The aircraft carrier must serve for over 50 years. On these ships the school of our carrier-based aviation was created, ”he wrote.

Many noted that the shipbuilding industry was unable to build ships – analogs of projects 1144, 1143.

“The whole trouble is that comparing the real capabilities of the current Sudprom (I am already silent about the funding that is promising in the coming years …) with the USSR Sudprom of the 80s is at least strange. Of course, living in hope is a good thing, but, alas, little depends on it. You just need to at least be aware of what is in reality. But in reality, we have already entered a period of the most severe economic (I am silent about the long-standing technological) crisis. And which country will emerge from it and after what time, perhaps, God does not know. It was necessary to protect competently what was and not to interrupt the notorious connection of times. And the principle “rubbish for scrapping – we will build a new one” – in 30 years barely two (frigates) 22350 were commissioned, with all the darkness of Stalinism, in 20 years they recreated, if not perfect, but the Navy. And now…”